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[CHAMBER] Recognition of the Soviet Union

Posted: 11:01:29 Friday, 06 October, 2017
by Smyg
Fellow most honoured delegates and comrades of the Chamber: Recognise the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics!

Shocking, I know. "Bolshevik sympathizer", you shout. "Soviet spy!" even, perhaps. But hear me our, good friends and gentlemen.

A decade has now passed since the Russian Revolution and the First World War, the past is no more. Once, Brazil was an empire, and so was Russia. No more. There simply does not exist any other government of Russia than the Soviet one, and for Brazil to not diplomatically recognise it now is absurd. And before you point out any allegiance to the fallen Czar, keep in mind that we ceased our relations with those imperial pretenders long ago. When the Empire of Russia fell in 1917, the Government of the Republic of the United States of Brazil, on the decision of our respected Foreign Minister Lauro Muller, immediately sent a telegram of solidarity to Alexander Kerensky of the Provisional Government of Russia, and later on the 9th of April 1917 formally --- via the now dissolved Brazilian legations in Petrograd --- informed the Kerensky Regime of our diplomatic recognition and our "earnest intention to cultivate the most cordial ties".

In fact, it is this sympathy for the Kerensky Regime, not our hatred of the Bolsheviks or our love of the Emperor, that caused us to in February 1918 sever relations with the nascent new government. That and our involvement in the Great War, a battle now long gone. The Bolshevik leader Vladimir Lenin had refused to accept a new Brazilian envoy due to his alleged Germanophile views, and the Brazilian press in turn often presented Lenin as being a German spy. All of this is now a moot point. The German Empire is gone too, the Treaty of Versailles is signed, and nothing hinders us from peaceful diplomatic relations with the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics, the sole legitimate government of Russia.

At the present, nations across the world have established diplomatic relations with the Soviet Union. They include, at my latest count, Albania, Austria, Denmark, Estonia, Finland, France, Germany, Greece, Iceland, Italy, Latvia, Lithuania, Norway, Sweden, Poland, Great Britain, Afghanistan, China, Persia, Japan, Mongolia, Arabia, Turkey, Mexico and Uruguay. As you can see, these include some of the largest and greatest countries of the world, including our close French allies, and also our southern neighbours in Uruguay, in addition to our Mexican friends. Recognition would not be a radical or extreme move, but an intelligent diplomatic move in a time when the USSR --- a peaceful nation --- is focusing significantly on foreign trade, that benefits all. Since 1921, the People's Commissariat of Foreign Trade have engaged significantly to promote this. The Anglo-Soviet Trade Agreement signed in 1921 by the United Kingdom and the USSR hailed in a new era of commercial exchange, to extensive British gain I might add.

And just look at how successful American capitalist businesses have been in regards to this. This very year, 1929, Mr. Henry Ford and the Ford Motor Company have signed an agreement with the Soviet Union to provide technical aid over nine years to build an automobile plant in Russia, and another such agreement has been signed with the Austin Company. This includes the purchase of $30,000,000 worth of Ford cars and trucks for reassembly in the USSR. Hundreds of Ford technicians are on their way overseas as we speak, and there'll be Soviet engineers in Detroit and Dearborn ready to peacefully learn the way of building automobiles. As that awful capitalist said regarding this: "No matter where industry prospers, whether in India or China, or Russia, the more profit there will be for everyone, including us. All the world is bound to catch some good from it." While I obviously disagree with his motives, surely such comments would convince some of you.

The United States of Mexico became the first country in the Americas to recognise the USSR in 1924, and have suffered no ill effects neither from said relations or from the appointment of Mrs. Alexandra Kollontai as the Soviet ambassador to Mexico City. The Oriental Republic of Uruguay, our southern brothers, established diplomatic relations in 1926, likwise to no ill effect. There are currently extensive negotiations beween the Soviet Union and our arch-rival Argentina on the supply of petroleum products, and with Chile regarding nitrates. In fact, in Buenos Aires, a Soviet trade bureau has been set up! And many prominent political voices in the United States of America, especially the Democratic Party (notably, Mr. Franklin D. Roosevelt, the Governor of New York) argue in favour of recognition, which can no doubt soon be expected.

Why should we let Brazil fall behind the rest of the continent?

Thank you.

Motion to Recognise the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics

Whereas the Republic of the United States of Brazil diplomatically recognised in 1917 the Russian Provisional Government, to which the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics is the sole existing successor government,

Whereas numerous other countries across the world have already diplomatically recognised the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics, including our southern neighbour Uruguay and our old friend France,

Whereas the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics is engaged in peaceful commercial exchange with many Western nations, including several Latin American governments,

  • Section 1. The Brazilian National Congress calls upon His Excellency the President of the Republic of the United States of Brazil to instruct the Ministry of Foreign Affairs to recognise the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics as the Government of Russia, and to open diplomatic relations with said Government.
  • Section 2. The Brazilian National Congress calls upon His Excellency the President of the Republic of the United States of Brazil to instruct the Ministry of Agriculture, Industry and Commerce to begin evaluating a Brazilian trade policy in regards to exchange with the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics.
  • Section 3. This bill shall go into effect thirty-one (31) days after passage.

Re: [CHAMBER] Recognition of the Soviet Union

Posted: 13:29:36 Monday, 09 October, 2017
by Smyg
As expected, the capitalists of Brazil entirely fail to capitalise on the capitalistic opportunities of investing capital with the government in the Soviet capital.

Re: [CHAMBER] Recognition of the Soviet Union

Posted: 15:58:02 Monday, 09 October, 2017
by Flaming Bolshevik
The Soviet Union is a genocidal state that brought about the death of millions of working people in Russia. The people of Brazil should not recognize this illegal entity and instead offer aid to the Anti-Communists left around Europe.

We will not be divided any longer based on class.

Re: [CHAMBER] Recognition of the Soviet Union

Posted: 19:49:35 Monday, 09 October, 2017
by LordMoose
the USSR only seeks to export its own brand of dictatorship to other nations it has dealings with, along with the above mentioned problems we JUST GOT OUT OF OUR OWN CIVIL WAR and do not need some extremists groups trying to rally up a second civil war in living memory

Re: [CHAMBER] Recognition of the Soviet Union

Posted: 01:35:55 Tuesday, 10 October, 2017
by Luc
João Mangabeira, Leader of the Socialist Revolutionary Party

The Socialist Revolutionary Party will, with all its strenght, support such measure! The USSR has grown to become a major power in the globe, with one of the largest populations and one of the fastest growing economies in the earth! We do somewhat understand the reluctance that some parties might have towards such move on a purely ideological ground, but establishing friendly relations with the Soviet Union would be an extremely benefitial move for Brazil, opening new ways of commerce and cooperation in the international stage.

Re: [CHAMBER] Recognition of the Soviet Union

Posted: 20:24:20 Thursday, 12 October, 2017
by Smyg
We ask that voting be opened on this bill, so we can see who among us support a fair, powerful foreign policy, one based on both the principle of international peace and on the economic well-being of the Brazilian nation.

Re: [CHAMBER] Recognition of the Soviet Union

Posted: 20:45:35 Thursday, 12 October, 2017
by Westar
We should consider establishing relations through a protecting power in the Soviet Union. For economic and trade purposes mostly.

Re: [CHAMBER] Recognition of the Soviet Union

Posted: 20:48:36 Thursday, 12 October, 2017
by Smyg
Please note, just for the record, that this bill is non-binding and consultatory to His Excellency the President, in its wording.

Re: [CHAMBER] Recognition of the Soviet Union

Posted: 20:54:06 Thursday, 12 October, 2017
by Luc
Sebastião do Rego Barros, President of the Chamber of Deputies

I believe sufficient time was put into discussing the proposed bill, so I will move a motion to vote on it.

Re: [CHAMBER] Recognition of the Soviet Union

Posted: 21:07:13 Thursday, 12 October, 2017
by Smyg
The Communist Party of Brazil (4) offers a resounding yes.

Again, this bill is non-binding and consultative. Note that it specifically "calls upon His Excellency the President of the Republic of the United States of Brazil to instruct the Ministry of Foreign Affairs" and likewise "calls upon His Excellency the President of the Republic of the United States of Brazil to instruct the Ministry of Agriculture, Industry and Commerce".

The "establishing relations through a protecting power in the Soviet Union. For economic and trade purposes mostly." which the ANL suggested above is certainly a possibility within these parameters, as is anything else. It is merely a call to action.

Re: [CHAMBER] Recognition of the Soviet Union

Posted: 21:23:52 Thursday, 12 October, 2017
by Flaming Bolshevik
The AIB votes no. (3)

We will now and forever oppose any motion that would recognize a state that has butchered hundreds of thousands of its own people based on the division of class. We should not sacrifice our morals for the sake of trade.

Re: [CHAMBER] Recognition of the Soviet Union

Posted: 21:27:37 Thursday, 12 October, 2017
by Flamelord
The Federal Union Party (93) votes No on the proposed bill. We are confident the President will undertake to open relations with the USSR when he feels comfortable doing so.

Re: [CHAMBER] Recognition of the Soviet Union

Posted: 21:35:55 Thursday, 12 October, 2017
by Red John
Flamelord wrote: 21:27:37 Thursday, 12 October, 2017 The Federal Union Party (93) votes No on the proposed bill. We are confident the President will undertake to open relations with the USSR when he feels comfortable doing so.
The Liberal Democratic Party (91) will vote no.

We believe that there will come a time when Brazil should recognise the Soviet Union. This time is not that time.

Re: [CHAMBER] Recognition of the Soviet Union

Posted: 00:32:15 Friday, 13 October, 2017
by Luc
The Democratic Party (42) votes AGAINST this bill.

The Socialist Revolutionary Party (3) votes IN FAVOUR of this bill.

Re: [CHAMBER] Recognition of the Soviet Union

Posted: 21:01:34 Friday, 13 October, 2017
by acecipher
The Social Democratic Party will vote in Favor of this bill.

While we do respect our Federal Unionist and Liberal Democratic colleague's acceptance that we should not isolate ourselves from other nations on the world stage, we are quite sad to see isolationist sentiment effecting our judgement.