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[CHAMBER] O problema da indústria

Posted: 13:11:11 Saturday, 07 October, 2017
by LordMoose
O problema da indústria

It has come to the attention of our party that the government currently has a leech on it, a division of its budget that takes
money like a hungry lion yet returns absolute swak, a section of the budget that if removed would increase our surplus by
a total of 40c per year [10c per turn], money that could be spent in many different helpful ways. from improving the national
road and electrical network that was destroyed in the civil war, to helping people down on there luck survive and not starve to
death, to reinvesting that money into a more profitable venue.

- Cost of state ran industry - 30c
- Profit of state ran industry - 20c
Net Total Profit made - -10c

Understanding that the state run industry has become a model of inefficiently for all to see and how it only wastes money in both
the long and short term I propose one of two bills
A Lei de Recuperação da Indústria do Estado

Whereas - We understand that the current industry own by the state is inefficient and costing tax payers money

Whereas - This congress whishes to save the industry and attempt to make it profitable

Section 1 - All state run industry is temporary shutdown to prevent more money being wasted going into the industry, the workers would earn
a fraction of there pay equal to X percent for Y number of days of the week per week the industry is closed [X and Y open for debate],

Clause 1 - Any section of this state ran industry that is found to be profitable before the shutdown would still be allowed run threw this shutdown unaffected

Section 2 - We ask for a report from the respected government office on the amount of investment needed to bring this industry back up to PRE-CIVIL war standers, cost and production amounts, also including an estimate on how profitable it would be

Section 3 - Once the report is in this congress votes on wither it whishes to invest the capital, until the vote happens the industry would remain shutdown
Bill two
A Indústria do Estado vende o Bill

Whereas - We understand that the current industry own by the state is inefficient and costing tax payers money

Whereas - This congress either does not whish to invest more capital into this state ran industry or decided in section three of the above vote that the amount needed to be invested was too great, this congress decided to sell this industry to the private sector

Section 1 - The respected government offices report on the total value of the industry and if there is any profitable sections left

Section 2 - Any non-profitable sections are shutdown, there workers being given paided leave as described above

Section 3 - An auction is held on all shutdown state ran industry in the following months, all people are welcome to this auction unless they hail from a nation that has an antagonist nature with our great nation or is a person who due to some other law, banned from owning state industry

Clause 1 - All money created with this auction will be given to the treasury for safe keeping
Bill three added due to private congressional debate

Plano de Reinvestimento da Indústria Estadual

Whereas - We understand that the current industry own by the state is inefficient and costing tax payers money

Whereas - This congress whishes to keep the industry running through its inefficient

Section 1 - At all due haste the government requests reports and purposes on how to make these state run industries profitable

Section 2 - At all due haste the government requests reports and purposes on how to cut costs with in the state run industries

Section 3 - At all due haste the government requests reports on the economic impact that selling these state ran industries would have on our nation

Section 4 - Congress agrees to vote on wither to put into place the actions recommended above and to what degree when all reports have come in

Re: [CHAMBER] O problema da indústria

Posted: 13:28:19 Saturday, 07 October, 2017
by Red John
We absolutely will not support these measures. While it is unfortunate certain industries yet remain unprofitable, the solution is not to close them. It is to do our best to find out any potential bottlenecks and push through them.

Even then, not all industries are profitable at the current time. I will never sacrifice any industrial progress made thus far in our great nation unless it is absolutely necessary.

Re: [CHAMBER] O problema da indústria

Posted: 14:01:01 Saturday, 07 October, 2017
by LordMoose
then bill one would be for you, we are wasting money keeping them open so it would be in everyone's best intrest to close them and figure out how to make them profitable, then reopen them

note we want the workers to keep there jobs, so we support bill three fully at the moment

We would also like to point out to the rest of the nation that YOUR tax money is going into this unprofitable business, your money is being wasted due to the fact that they don't whish to change at all. we are attempting to fix the problem and bring more money to the government, money that wont be taken out of your pocket, yet these liberals would rather just keep wasting your money than sit down and do there job

Re: [CHAMBER] O problema da indústria

Posted: 00:31:52 Sunday, 08 October, 2017
by Flamelord
While it is unfortunate that not all industries currently operating within the control of the state are not currently profitable, we do not believe that the proposed bill is the answer. Certainly we should make all efforts to correct what problems there are and ensure we are acting as to the best of our capabilities, but the industries that would be affected are those which have been deemed by the state as being too important to the operation of the country to be left in the hands of private corporations. To simply shut them down and wait until we have corrected any flaws that might exist would be to deprive our people of the services that they provide, which could do incalculable harm to the Brazilian economy.

As such bill three as proposed is the only one that we would be willing to support at this time, the others would be far too harmful for their own good due to the impact they would have on the nation. Though we would suggest amending 'purposes' to 'proposals', otherwise it does not make much sense

Re: [CHAMBER] O problema da indústria

Posted: 20:52:10 Thursday, 12 October, 2017
by Smyg
We would appreciate further discussion, either negative or positive, on this. Alternatively, that it be moved to a voting stage, so that we may clear the respected Liberators' bill from the agenda and move on to their other valuable contributions.

Re: [CHAMBER] O problema da indústria

Posted: 20:45:58 Friday, 13 October, 2017
by Smyg
Pretty please?

Re: [CHAMBER] O problema da indústria

Posted: 20:47:01 Friday, 13 October, 2017
by Luc
Sebastião do Rego Barros, President of the Chamber of Deputies

It honestly seems to me that this propossal isint the best that it could be, this can easily be seen by the lack of eagerness of most members of the house to debate this bill. I would lke input from the members of this house if they would like to move this bill into voting or archive it.

Re: [CHAMBER] O problema da indústria

Posted: 21:06:21 Friday, 13 October, 2017
by acecipher
Luc wrote: 20:47:01 Friday, 13 October, 2017
Sebastião do Rego Barros, President of the Chamber of Deputies

It honestly seems to me that this propossal isint the best that it could be, this can easily be seen by the lack of eagerness of most members of the house to debate this bill. I would lke input from the members of this house if they would like to move this bill into voting or archive it.
The Social Democrats feel these proposals should be archived.

Re: [CHAMBER] O problema da indústria

Posted: 23:06:45 Sunday, 15 October, 2017
by Luc
Sebastião do Rego Barros, President of the Chamber of Deputies

Since no opposition was raised towards the Social Democrat request, this bill shall be archived. Its authors are more then welcome to propose it once again in the future.