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Flamelord wrote:We have space ships. With laser weapons, sentient AI's, and cloaking. They don't even have flight capability. That's a pretty hard gap they won't be covering any time soon, at least in what could be seen as reasonable for the game. I'm not sure how your info helps them bootstrap their way even past the interwar period, much less get them to the modern age.
The info isn't about bootstrapping at all, its far more about understanding when capitalizing on those resources remains useful and has any real utility. That and the actual solidity of what we can do with our weapons and technology is much less in the long term planetside. The xenos don't even need to really do anything before we start breaking down. In fact, there is no need to cover any gap at all, since that's not the time problem with our weapons.

What can we really do with our advantage anyways? Start a shooting war on the ground that becomes a shooting war in orbit? Start a shooting war in orbit that becomes a shooting war on the ground? Try to divy up the planet only for whatever adhoc system we try to strong arm to fall apart a couple months or years later (if that) leading to said shooting war anyways? Hold hands and sing kumbaya with nukes... until we get into a shooting war anyways? Bullshit until we accidentally cause an apocalypse? Our technology and weapons are, if anything, one of our biggest hindrances, especially our WMDs and heavy industry. The majority of our fleet and industry is already basically dead weight, only useful if we were about to trigger an apocalypse, and none of us wants that, so despite all of our shiny weapons and tech we all have our hands tied unless one of our players wants to start murdering everyone and end up causing more division causing us to go back ever further thus making our weapons and tech even LESS useful after we're all done dying.

We also can't start killing the xenos because the moment that happens we all start jumping on each other, once again causing the problems listed above and giving us all a one way trip to the firing squad the moment the Hague can get their hands on us eventually. So the only real game here for any of us, the only game where we don't all die either in space or with a gun to our heads, is the long game that uses as little of our tech and weapons as possible.

The utility our weapons and technology really offer us is pitifully small even just a few months from now, let alone a few years from now, so the only REAL weapon the humans have against the xenos is their confusion and ignorance to act as a screen to our own problems and general long term incompetence post planetfall. We no longer have that, so our technology is about to mean about as much as the pot we piss in, and in the longer term even less than that piss pot.

To be fair, we no longer have this main advantage because I had the Chinese take it away. Though largely because taking away this advantage is probably one of the few things that could prevent all of us from trying to fuck with the planet and end up in a shooting war. With the cat out of the bag maybe we can step back and choose the best choices that don't end in us all dead, and if not, well at least the xenos are now armed to smell our bullshit and if we try to force them too hard now, well then we'll be going down the suicide path anyways.

Anywho, sorry for barfing out several paragraphs, but I hope that got across at least some of the personal and character motivations for that move and view.
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Mathuen wrote:
Flamelord wrote:Words
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I know Goofy might be upset that I beat him to Mathuen's first Molotov meme-ing, but it had to be done. I'll make you proud Langben-sensei

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Snacks wrote:
Mathuen wrote:
Flamelord wrote:Words
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I know Goofy might be upset that I beat him to Mathuen's first Molotov meme-ing, but it had to be done. I'll make you proud Langben-sensei

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One of these things is true, the other is not. Also Mathuen just killed my attempt to negotiate with the aliens, so I'm a bit annoyed right now
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Whoo! Rebellion! Just what I wanted!
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Mathuen wrote:What can we really do with our advantage anyways? ... Start a shooting war in orbit that becomes a shooting war on the ground?
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Mathuen wrote:Whoo! Rebellion! Just what I wanted!
#sorrynotsorry
ProfesoraDinoToday at 4:44 PM
not into Gesar anymore
he's never who u want him to be
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this is Gesar World
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we're just living in it
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Snacks wrote:
Mathuen wrote:
Flamelord wrote:Words
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I know Goofy might be upset that I beat him to Mathuen's first Molotov meme-ing, but it had to be done. I'll make you proud Langben-sensei

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^ Goof straight balla
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Also on the RFSL takeover of the satellites. I guess Gesar is now a known associate of...

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Home internet on the fritz. Had a post written up pre-SHTF, I'll post that when able but until then I'm operating on a phone limiting my posting.
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Mathuen wrote:Anywho, sorry for barfing out several paragraphs, but I hope that got across at least some of the personal and character motivations for that move and view.
The trick is, this would have been a much more interesting conversation to have somewhere besides the Out of Character forum.
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Langben wrote:Home internet on the fritz. Had a post written up pre-SHTF, I'll post that when able but until then I'm operating on a phone limiting my posting.
Functional, disregard.
Mathuen wrote:Anywho, sorry for barfing out several paragraphs, but I hope that got across at least some of the personal and character motivations for that move and view.
The trick is, this would have been a much more interesting conversation to have somewhere besides the Out of Character forum.
Probably, but at least for me it wasn't the type of conversation I was intending to have anyways. I do have other goals and character motivations though that will be dealt with only in the story/game threads that I actually would want to touch on there.
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Well now the Chinese lesbian space cadets are busy shooting each other, and the Congo have decided we need to fuck the natives up technologically, here's a handy guide to the rest of the game.

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So Qiu is now dead, oh well, I guess these things happen.

Oh, and also we are all so fucking fucked now. Only darkness remains.
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